tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20099192.post8971735567278118063..comments2024-01-28T03:35:51.182-05:00Comments on Reassigned Time: RBOC: GradingDr. Crazyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12457967076373916629noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20099192.post-41621159108186179032008-10-30T11:36:00.000-04:002008-10-30T11:36:00.000-04:00Negcap is also made to cry by the passive voice, w...Negcap is also made to cry by the passive voice, which usually reflects the epitome of a desire to makes ones deep thoughts about life in general objective.negativecapabilityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08014108944008633157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20099192.post-44578228568308470382008-10-28T14:42:00.000-04:002008-10-28T14:42:00.000-04:00I hear you sister! Especially on the passive voice...I hear you sister! Especially on the passive voice. I usually try and get students to write in the first person, too, so that I don't get horribly tortured constructions about "one" doing this and "one" being critical of that. They usually ignore me and I hear about lots of "ones" rather than anyONE in particular, like, you know, the student themselves. Sigh.grumpyABDadjuncthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00996252815514179671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20099192.post-27245988512544881222008-10-28T06:50:00.000-04:002008-10-28T06:50:00.000-04:00Drat! You did it better than I did, Brian. This ...Drat! You did it better than I did, Brian. This is what I get for having beaten the passive voice out of myself. I don't even know how to do it properly as an example :)<BR/><BR/>(Actually, originally that bullet read: The passive voice makes Dr. Crazy cry. I decided to change it to make it reflect the thing that makes me cry, but I am slowly realizing that I just don't think in the passive voice anymore.)Dr. Crazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12457967076373916629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20099192.post-49845312187795719722008-10-27T23:17:00.000-04:002008-10-27T23:17:00.000-04:00Shouldn't #4 be, "Tears are wept by Dr. Crazy when...Shouldn't #4 be, "Tears are wept by Dr. Crazy when the passive voice is used to characterize the writing"?Brian W. Ogilviehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045133494402037781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20099192.post-27826379654102271442008-10-27T20:56:00.000-04:002008-10-27T20:56:00.000-04:00What I tell my students as a rule of thumb is that...What I tell my students as a rule of thumb is that no more than 25-30 percent of a paper should be quoted or paraphrased material. Some of them take that to heart, while others don't do so. But I give very clear guidelines about expectations in my assignments, so I don't worry too much about grading too harshly. If you follow directions, you do well. If you don't, well, you don't do so well. Of course, I'm widely considered a "harsh" grader. Whatever. They're better writers when I'm done with them.Dr. Crazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12457967076373916629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20099192.post-50125537720778341262008-10-27T19:36:00.000-04:002008-10-27T19:36:00.000-04:00My rule: no quotes in short papers. Since I only a...My rule: no quotes in short papers. Since I only assign short papers, they must be precise, concise and one's own.<BR/><BR/>Doesn't mean it works, but it does give me a solid reason for harsher grading.Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10849272391043604637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20099192.post-40308328836847356652008-10-27T18:34:00.000-04:002008-10-27T18:34:00.000-04:00Ah, Undine, and this is one of my problems with th...Ah, Undine, and this is one of my problems with the way that writing has been taught since the comp/rhet revolution. Here's the issue as far as I'm concerned: you can't write something without a thesis statement - consciously - unless you know how to write something with a strong thesis statement first. I'm willing to place a bet that John Updike *could* produce a decent, thesis-driven, five-paragraph essay. That is not the case for many students. You have to know how to do the formal, traditional thing before you can break the rule. That's my feeling.<BR/><BR/>Also, I'm asking them to write traditional, academic, literary criticism. And we academics use thesis statements. <BR/><BR/>I will say this, though, in my students' favor: they *almost* get it. And I have high hopes that once they receive these papers back that it will be clearer to them what exactly is required as far as this stuff goes.Dr. Crazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12457967076373916629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20099192.post-17090700884143075242008-10-27T18:09:00.000-04:002008-10-27T18:09:00.000-04:00Oh, lord. Can I forward this post to every single ...Oh, lord. Can I forward this post to every single one of my students?? I get so tired of writing over and over, "Yes, dear, but where is your thesis statement?"Virginia S. Wood, Psy.D., Instructorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04482719649602902058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20099192.post-69204120518894388342008-10-27T16:04:00.000-04:002008-10-27T16:04:00.000-04:00Oh, but some of the anti-writing textbooks say the...Oh, but some of the anti-writing textbooks say the thesis statement is a myth. "Just try to find the thesis statement in this piece by Professional Author," they say. "Does John Updike use a thesis statement? Then your students don't need one, either." <BR/><BR/>I'm with you: work needs a thesis.undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.com